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The Howe of Cromar, Roy Military Survey of Scotland, 1747-55, collaged from the digital files at the National Library of Scotland








I’m William Cromar. By day I’m an artist and educator exploring digital media, and in that capacity my nom de guerre is williamCromar. By night, I’m an extremely amateur genealogist living in Philadelphia PA USA.

This blog started in 2021, but the seeds for it were sown when my wife gifted me with a DNA ancestry kit. Years and much trial and error later, I feel confident enough in my research skills to document the journey of my family through time and place in this blog. I was inspired by the family history blogging work of Martin Robb, who may in fact prove to be a distant relative. Martin borrowed a line from E. P. Thompson which I thought so appropriate to describe the endeavor of family history generally that I had to borrow it from him.

My family is no different than others—we do have our share of famous and infamous ancestors, as does everyone—but without the usual blather of living in the reflected glory of the illustrious and nefarious, we can say: every family’s story is worth telling. So, like my perhaps-cousin Martin, I am here not to boast of connections to Robert the Bruce or William Shakespeare, but instead to rescue my humble farmer and stone-mason ancestors from the “enormous condescension of posterity.”

Paying forward

One reason I began to commit this journal to the net is to pay forward all of the help I’ve received from others as I’ve pieced this family history together. I’ve learned so much from the efforts of so many, I hope that I can help others. If we share any family history and you happen upon this blog, please contact me. And even if you don’t, you may find some reasonable hints about genealogy that I sure do wish I knew about when I started!

That’s why I’ve created some resource pages in addition to the blog found at the home page:

  • At Research, you’ll find a discussion on various resources for genealogical research, along with lists of links and notes on my personal experience with each, categorized by primary sources, mapping, symbology, “trustworthy” genealogical sites, and crowdsourced (usually paywalled) genealogy sites.
  • At Mapping, you’ll find an interactive map with the main players you’ll meet in this blog, with notes on this map’s construction.
  • At Etymology, there are notes about the many languages that influence Scottish place and personal names.
  • At Symbology, taking advantage of my profession as a digital artist, I discuss the study and development of three sets of icons I created for identifying “tribes” belonging to nations, families, or clans.

To experience this story as a first-timer, visit the first post to start chronologically, or visit the Directory to peruse posts in by topic. You can also work forward from post to post by using the NEXT» link at the bottom of each. You may search for people or topics at Search Cromarbaile, in the footer.

Oh, and my kilt? A Clan Farquharson ancient tartan, thank you for asking!

Celebrating with my awesome students, Anna Arsiry and Sean Smith, at their graduation.
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7 responses to “About”

  1. Wendy Cromar Avatar
    Wendy Cromar

    Hello from Wendy Cromar on the west coast of Canada (Vancouver)! I am writing in response to your latest blog post to say **Thank You!** for all that you have done to research and guide us Cromarologists along a successful path. I am the daughter of Colin Douglas Leslie Cromar, who is in your database. I have been working away at my family tree with my daughter for some time, and we were thrilled to stumble upon the Cromarville website and all that you have built into it. I still have lots to learn, and would be proud to call myself a fellow collaborator and am very much a believer in your code of etiquette. I think I have successfully verified the line to 1640, two generations prior to Peter of 1690, but at the same time am open-minded that my records may be erroneous. I will continue to study your work to see if I can find a clue either way. Ad astra per ardua!

    1. William Cromar Avatar

      Wendy, I really can’t express how pleased I am to hear from you and welcome your offer of collaboration! The material at this site is the work of many; I can claim but a tiny sliver as an original contribution. I’ve relied on collaboration to construct the story of our family, and it’s deeply gratifying to know I’m assisting you in your effort in the same manner I’ve benefitted from the work of others. I’m most curious about your hypotheses about the elusive Peter, since it is the central question this site was founded to discover!

      1. Wendy Mathers Avatar
        Wendy Mathers

        Dear William, 

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        1. William Cromar Avatar

          Hi Wendy, this looks like an incomplete message…

  2. Wendy Cromar Avatar
    Wendy Cromar

    Dear William,

    Please accept my apologies that I haven’t replied sooner; to be honest I have been combing back through all of my research as part of a Christmas project — and I also want to be really sure of my records before asking your opinion. So, I will be reverting soon on why I believe I have adequate sources to make the link between Peter (1690) and Jhon (1670).

    However, I am writing to you again in the meantime on two fronts:

    First, as I have read deeper into your previous blog postings and research, it appears to me that you only have one source of a rumour that the Cromars were really MacDonalds from Glencoe. I missed this before, and thought that you were following a rumour that comes from multiple sources. I want to tell you that this story exists in my line of the family as well. When my daughter married a McDonald, the immediate reaction was that she was always a MacDonald to begin with, the family having fled from Glencoe and changed their name many generations prior (note the different spelling, as this was underscored to her). Also, my father, Colin Cromar, always had the habit of saying “the Campbells are coming, the Campbells are coming, you ken by the smell”. We had never thought to follow this family lore and instead have been enjoying the hobby of genealogy without any particular purpose.

    Second, it appears that we are amongst only one or two other Cromars on ancestry.comthat have supplemented their research with DNA. This has helped us confirm links in a couple of places, but we have come to the conclusion that you and many others have made the decision not to go this route. We are curious why not (not trying to pry into personal reasons), but it would seem that there are are still generations alive today that would enable confirmation of the link back to the MacDonalds, if it exists.

    Thank you again for undertaking your extensive research project. It really is inspiring and so wonderful to be part of a global community connecting back to this little place in Scotland. If we understand correctly, you may be there now, or soon, and we are watching closely for any new postings!

    Best,
    Wendy Cromar

    1. William Cromar Avatar

      Hello Wendy!

      I’m glad this time your comment worked! And I’m sorry for my delay in reply. Your complete message somehow managed to find its way to the spam folder, which I’ve just now discovered and restored. Additionally, I’ve been busy with our school trip to Scotland, managing NOT to blog during the journey in spite of promises to my readers, and now backfilling that promise with a posts to come in the next few weeks. What you have to say piques my interest so much that I just have to interrupt that effort to reply to you.

      With respect to the MacDonald rumour, I might respectfully amend your observation to count two sources in this journal — not exactly multiple, but certainly more than one. I’ll count the first being the family story passed down from my great-grandmother Christiana “Teenie” Robb to my grandfather and hence down to me, and the second being from correspondences and posts by Ron Cromar, late of Banchory, Aberdeenshire, and passed on to Paul Smillie, and on to me. Our family story is purely oral history with no documentation, claiming a pair of MacDonald brothers who escaped some un-named persecution. Ron’s hypothesis is equally lacking in documentation, though he did interview a minister near Aboyne who understood some Cromars to originally be members of the MacDonald clan (whether by that name or a sept, not specified) who escaped Glencoe. Both instances, sadly, are still hearsay evidence that wouldn’t pass muster in court.

      So now we can add your family’s oral history to this growing list! Having been independently handed down over the centuries, these three stories combine to reinforce the probability of carrying a measure of truth. Now: if any of this can somehow lead to a scrap of documentary evidence that survived the ravages of turbulent times, we may be on our way to cracking open a cold case in Scottish history!

      Perhaps the unusual spelling of Jhon carries a clue? I’m looking forward to what you have on this.

      With respect to DNA, I do have an analysis on board at ancestry.com, but I haven’t seen fit to use that as a resource for no better reasons than 1) I still feel very new to the game in spite of having worked on this since the advent of the pandemic, and 2) I became deeply invested in refining Ron Cromar’s hypothesis for the descendancy chart of Peter Cromar. I suppose that left little time to turn my attention toward DNA. But Peter’s descendancy is largely complete now, and this has borne fruit as evidenced by our correspondence: your family line is clearly expressed there. I’m interested in what connections you found and how you used DNA records to discover them. Perhaps this is a project we can collaborate on. I’ve added a contact form at the bottom of the blog you can use to correspond with me without resorting to the comment section.

      All the best to you!

      1. Wendy Mathers Avatar
        Wendy Mathers

        Hi William,
        Thanks so much for your reply. We have been checking regularly for notes on your trip despite being overwhelmed by all the activity that is part of Thanksgiving weekend, and will respond properly to your message soon. We hope your trip exceeds your expectations and provides you with lots of new information – we are very envious, but know that you will glean so much more than we ever could.
        Very best,
        Wendy

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